Comments on: Generation of Tinkerers http://mineandthine.com/2009/05/27/generation-of-tinkerers/ Christ-Centered Thoughts and Musings Mon, 18 Jan 2010 01:00:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: chrisdat http://mineandthine.com/2009/05/27/generation-of-tinkerers/comment-page-1/#comment-2002 chrisdat Thu, 28 May 2009 04:48:57 +0000 http://mineandthine.com/2009/05/27/generation-of-tinkerers/#comment-2002 I think tinkerers have an important contribution to make. But tinkerers need to be careful to not overestimate their role while diminishing the role of the "builder". There needs to be both, and God in his wisdom has filled the church with both. So yes, I think it is necessary for the church to recognize both the tinkerer and the "builder" in the church. If you are at all like me, if there is an exception, an inconsistency, or a better way I am providentially wired to find it. That exception or inconsistency resides in an unbearable tension that must be tinkered with until solved. History I imagine is strewn with the wreckage of tinkerers' experiments and solutions. But history has also been forever changed by tinkerers who did not give up, or give in. I hope you are right and cooperation is possible, but living humbly with the tension is probably the first step (for me). Thanks for taking the time to comment and add to the my thinking. I think tinkerers have an important contribution to make. But tinkerers need to be careful to not overestimate their role while diminishing the role of the "builder". There needs to be both, and God in his wisdom has filled the church with both. So yes, I think it is necessary for the church to recognize both the tinkerer and the "builder" in the church.

If you are at all like me, if there is an exception, an inconsistency, or a better way I am providentially wired to find it. That exception or inconsistency resides in an unbearable tension that must be tinkered with until solved.

History I imagine is strewn with the wreckage of tinkerers' experiments and solutions. But history has also been forever changed by tinkerers who did not give up, or give in.

I hope you are right and cooperation is possible, but living humbly with the tension is probably the first step (for me). Thanks for taking the time to comment and add to the my thinking.

]]> By: Mark Traphagen http://mineandthine.com/2009/05/27/generation-of-tinkerers/comment-page-1/#comment-1987 Mark Traphagen Wed, 27 May 2009 14:20:42 +0000 http://mineandthine.com/2009/05/27/generation-of-tinkerers/#comment-1987 Thanks, Chris. This opens up some new avenues I need to think through. I think I could summarize many of the interpersonal conflicts I've had within the church in the past few years as the clash of tinkerer (me mostly) with builder. I wonder if there is not room for both in the church, and if perhaps the most productive way forward will be for those who find a way to build cooperation between the two. Thanks, Chris. This opens up some new avenues I need to think through. I think I could summarize many of the interpersonal conflicts I've had within the church in the past few years as the clash of tinkerer (me mostly) with builder.

I wonder if there is not room for both in the church, and if perhaps the most productive way forward will be for those who find a way to build cooperation between the two.

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